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AMD's new Ryzen processors see early price cuts amid lukewarm reviews

AMD's new Ryzen processors see early price cuts amid lukewarm reviews


Initial sales struggle as discounts aim to boost uptake of the latest CPU range

AMD's newly launched Ryzen desktop processors are experiencing early price reductions, with over seven percent slashed off prices in an effort to stimulate sales following less-than-stellar reviews.

Launched earlier this month, the Ryzen 9 9900X and 9950X, released as recently as 14th August, showed performance improvements over their predecessors, lower launch prices and reduced power consumption in multi-threaded applications. However, the new 9000-series CPUs, featuring the Zen 5 architecture, failed to deliver the significant gains seen in previous AMD releases and lagged behind in gaming performance compared to the 3D V-Cache models.

It has been suggested that some of the issues might be due to a fault with Windows 11 but that might take a while to fix. AMD may introduce a BIOS update to increase the power limits of some Ryzen 9000 CPUs, potentially boosting performance.

As a result, any performance enhancements did not justify an upgrade from the previous generation, many of which offered better value due to recent price cuts.

This has led to poor initial sales. In Germany, with a high concentration of retailers, competition for early sales has already driven prices down.

Typically, price drops for new CPUs are not seen until well into their launch cycle, often in the final months before the next generation is introduced. However, websites such as Hardware & Co and Videocardz have noted that prices in Germany were already discounted from launch day prices compared to those provided to German reviewers in Euros.

The Ryzen 9 9900X, which should retail for 539 EUR, was listed on price comparison websites for as low as 499 EUR, a reduction of over seven per cent from the launch price. The Ryzen 7 9700X saw a similar drop, retailing at 379 EUR compared to its 399 EUR launch price, a decrease of around five per cent.

The flagship Ryzen 9 9950X was available for just 699 EUR, down from its launch price of 709 EUR, while the entry-level Ryzen 5 9600X was priced at 299 EUR, a reduction from its launch price of 309 EUR. Other countries in the region have not been as fortunate, with the UK seeing prices in line with those at launch and no significant price cuts reported in the US.

The Ryzen 9000 series was always going to be a tough sell, with Ryzen 7000 pricing dropping significantly and the Ryzen 7000 3D V-Cache models outperforming the Ryzen 9000 series in most games.

A range of Ryzen 9000-series 3D V-Cache models is expected in the coming months. This could further marginalise the initial Ryzen 9000 CPUs, making them less attractive for those building gaming PCs.

 

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  • Chipzilla to launch Arrow Lake-s processors on 10 Octobernick [AT] fudzilla [DOT] com (Nick Farrell)
    Core Ultra 200 series to compete with AMD's Ryzen 9000 lineup. Intel is set to launch its new desktop processors, codenamed Arrow Lake-S, on 10 October. The new Core Ultra 200 series will follow AMD's recent Ryzen 9000 launch, with gaming-focused processors featuring 3D V-Cache expected to debut around the same time. Intel's new naming scheme introduces the Core Ultra family of high-performance processors, including Core Ultra 9, Core Ultra 7, and Core Ultra 5. The flagship Core Ultra 9 285K wi
     

Chipzilla to launch Arrow Lake-s processors on 10 October

Chipzilla to launch Arrow Lake-s processors on 10 October


Core Ultra 200 series to compete with AMD's Ryzen 9000 lineup.

Intel is set to launch its new desktop processors, codenamed Arrow Lake-S, on 10 October.

The new Core Ultra 200 series will follow AMD's recent Ryzen 9000 launch, with gaming-focused processors featuring 3D V-Cache expected to debut around the same time.

Intel's new naming scheme introduces the Core Ultra family of high-performance processors, including Core Ultra 9, Core Ultra 7, and Core Ultra 5. The flagship Core Ultra 9 285K will feature eight P cores and 16 E cores, maintaining the current maximum of 24 cores. The maximum frequency under Thermal Velocity Boost for the flagship model is 5.7GHz, lower than the current Core i9-14900K and Core i9-14900KS, which can reach 6GHz and 6.2GHz respectively.

The performance benefits of the new CPUs stem from the underlying architecture rather than just core counts and frequencies. The Core Ultra 9 corresponds to the old Core i9, Core Ultra 7 to Core i7, and Core Ultra 5 to Core i5.

 Unlike AMD, which will launch multiple CPU ranges, Intel will introduce a single range of CPUs for gaming and content creation. The new Core Ultra CPUs will compete with AMD's existing 3D V-Cache models and the upcoming Zen 5 architecture.

Intel's new CPUs are already seeing suspected price cuts in specific markets. However, introducing a new processor socket will require users to purchase new motherboards. AMD introduced its new socket two years ago.

Intel has faced stability issues and had to release a potentially performance-impacting microcode fix. With AMD's Ryzen 9000 series' disappointing start, enthusiasts are eagerly anticipating Intel's Core Ultra launch and AMD's Ryzen 9000 3D V-Cache models for their next PC upgrades.

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  • Samsung unveils industry's thinnest LPDDR5X DRAMnick [AT] fudzilla [DOT] com (Nick Farrell)
    Headed for premium smartphones Samsung Electronics is mass producing what it calls the industry's thinnest 12nm-class, 12GB, and 16GB LPDDR5X DRAM packages, aimed at the premium smartphone market. These ultra-thin packages are designed to enhance thermal control by using additional space within smartphones, a crucial feature as on-device AI applications become more prevalent. The new LPDDR5X DRAM package, featuring a 4-stack structure, reduces thickness by 9 per cent and improves heat resistanc
     

Samsung unveils industry's thinnest LPDDR5X DRAM

Samsung unveils industry's thinnest LPDDR5X DRAM


Headed for premium smartphones

Samsung Electronics is mass producing what it calls the industry's thinnest 12nm-class, 12GB, and 16GB LPDDR5X DRAM packages, aimed at the premium smartphone market.

These ultra-thin packages are designed to enhance thermal control by using additional space within smartphones, a crucial feature as on-device AI applications become more prevalent.

The new LPDDR5X DRAM package, featuring a 4-stack structure, reduces thickness by 9 per cent and improves heat resistance by approximately 21.2 per cent compared to Samsung's previous generation.

The Korean technology giant achieved this by employing an optimised back-lapping process, refined PCB design, and advanced epoxy moulding compound techniques, resulting in a package as thin as 0.65 millimetres, the slimmest among existing LPDDR DRAM packages. This innovation is expected to enhance airflow, potentially leading to cooler devices.

Samsung has also disclosed plans to develop 6-layer 24GB and 8-layer 32GB modules in the thinnest LPDDR DRAM packages for future devices. These high-capacity packages are anticipated to power future Copilot+ PCs, introducing a new class of AI features.

Samsung Executive Vice President of Memory Product Planning YongCheol Bae said: "Samsung's LPDDR5X DRAM sets a new standard for high-performance on-device AI solutions, offering not only superior LPDDR performance but advanced thermal management in an ultra-compact package."

The forthcoming Google Pixel 9 series may incorporate these advanced DRAM packages, enhancing on-device AI capabilities. Similarly, Samsung's Galaxy S25 series, expected in early 2025, is likely to use these new DRAM packages, providing even more sophisticated AI experiences for users.

This development underscores Samsung's leadership in memory technology innovation and signals a trend toward integrating AI capabilities in future flagship smartphones.

ASUS dual mode ROG Swift OLED PG32UCDP gaming monitor now available

ASUS dual mode ROG Swift OLED PG32UCDP gaming monitor now available


Switch between 4K at 240Hz and 1080p at 480Hz

ASUS Republic of Gamers (ROG) has announced the availability of its ROG Swift OLED PG32UCDP gaming monitor, a 32-inch dual-mode monitor that allows users to easily switch between 4K at 240Hz and 1080p at 480Hz, depending on the game they are playing.

The ROG Swift OLED PG32UCDP uses a third-generation ROG OLED and Micro Lens Array Plus (MLA+) technologies panel, that promises 15% more brightness while the rest of the specifications include VESA DisplayHDR 400 compliance with 1,300cd/m² brightness, contrast ratio of 1,500,000:1 and 0.03ms GTG response time. The native resolution is 3840x2160 4K but it can switch between 4K at 240 Hz / FHD at 480 Hz with Dual Mode option with Frame Rate Boost.

It also supports Adaptive Sync, G-SYNC compatible, and FreeSync Premium Pro, has ASUSS OLED Care, and features two HDMI (v2.1), one DisplayPort (v1.4) with DSC inputs as well as three USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A, and one USB-C ports. The stand supports swivel, tilt, and height adjustments and it supports VESA mount (100x100).

The ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG32UCDP is now available in the US at an MSRP of $1,299.

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  • Confusion over Lunar Lake delaysnick [AT] fudzilla [DOT] com (Nick Farrell)
    Is it? Isn’t it There is some confusion over whether Intel’s Lunar Lake chips are going to be delayed. A report from DigiTimes, a publication specialising in semiconductor news, indicates that chip deliveries are now expected in September, deviating from an initial June schedule.  Intel, however, officially contests this claim and claims they would always arrive in September. When Lunar Lake was announced, it was projected to arrive within this year's July to September window, pinpointing their
     

Confusion over Lunar Lake delays

Confusion over Lunar Lake delays


Is it? Isn’t it

There is some confusion over whether Intel’s Lunar Lake chips are going to be delayed.

A report from DigiTimes, a publication specialising in semiconductor news, indicates that chip deliveries are now expected in September, deviating from an initial June schedule.  Intel, however, officially contests this claim and claims they would always arrive in September.

When Lunar Lake was announced, it was projected to arrive within this year's July to September window, pinpointing their availability before the festive shopping period. Had June been the original timeline, more comprehensive details about the processors would likely be available by now. It seems September has been the intended goal from the outset.

In correspondence with Intel, the company confirmed, "Lunar Lake will be available starting in Q3 ‘24 as noted at Computex — in time for the holiday shopping season."

Despite no official delay for Lunar Lake, these processors are set to enter the market after receiving offerings from Qualcomm and AMD.

Lunar Lake represents Intel's venture into the new Copilot+ PCs domain, yet they are slated to be the final entrants. Qualcomm's Snapdragon X Elite chip is already integrated into laptops, and AMD has announced that its Ryzen AI 300 CPUs will hit the shelves in July. While Intel has not publicly committed to a September release for Lunar Lake, this remains the prevailing conjecture.

Considering the processors are due in Q3 — between July and September — it appears premature for their launch next month. Although Intel has elaborated on Lunar Lake's "radical low-power architecture," details such as chip specifications or model numbers remain undisclosed.

Intel has offered some broad performance benchmarks compared to the Snapdragon X Elite and AMD's previous-generation CPUs. Nonetheless, as the launch date approaches, a more detailed understanding of these processors and their capabilities is expected.

Intel has yet to share vital information about power consumption, a key factor to consider when weighing the efficiency offered by the new Snapdragon X Elite.

While many particulars about Lunar Lake are still under wraps, we have witnessed a preview of devices incorporating this latest chip generation. For instance, MSI is set to introduce a new iteration of its Claw handheld device powered by a Lunar Lake CPU.

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  • Framework making moves towards RISC-Vnick [AT] fudzilla [DOT] com (Nick Farrell)
    New options arriving The Framework Laptop 13 will have a  RISC-V motherboard option. According to OMG Ubuntu  the collaboration between Framework Computer and DeepComputing is set to introduce a new mainboard powered by the StarFive JH7110 processor, a 64-bit CPU with four SiFive U74 cores and a maximum speed of 1.5 GHz. Although still in the early stages of development, this initiative marks a significant step towards diversifying the processor options available for the Framework Laptop 13, wh
     

Framework making moves towards RISC-V

Framework making moves towards RISC-V


New options arriving

The Framework Laptop 13 will have a  RISC-V motherboard option.

According to OMG Ubuntu  the collaboration between Framework Computer and DeepComputing is set to introduce a new mainboard powered by the StarFive JH7110 processor, a 64-bit CPU with four SiFive U74 cores and a maximum speed of 1.5 GHz.

Although still in the early stages of development, this initiative marks a significant step towards diversifying the processor options available for the Framework Laptop 13, which currently offers AMD Ryzen 5 7640U, Intel 13th Gen, or Meteor Lake processors.

The RISC-V mainboard will feature soldered memory and non-upgradeable eMMC storage, but it will maintain the Framework's commitment to modularity, as it can be inserted into any Framework Laptop 13 chassis or Cooler Master Mainboard Case.

The collaboration with Canonical and Red Hat aims to ensure robust Linux support through Ubuntu and Fedora, highlighting the importance of open-source software in this venture.

Framework's announcement emphasizes that the current generation of the RISC-V mainboard is primarily aimed at developers, tinkerers, and hobbyists.

 It acknowledges that the peripheral set and performance levels are not yet on par with their Intel and AMD-powered counterparts. Nevertheless, the company views this as a "huge milestone" for both the expansion of the Framework ecosystem and the accessibility of RISC-V technology.

In addition to the RISC-V mainboard, Framework has also released open-source CAD for the Framework Laptop 13 shell, encouraging the development of custom skins, cases, and accessories.

Moreover, the availability of Factory Seconds systems with British English and German keyboards presents a more affordable entry point into the Framework ecosystem.

Framework's commitment to an open, repairable, and customisable Consumer Electronics industry is evident in these developments, and it's clear that they are eager to foster a community where innovation and personalisation are at the forefront.

As the RISC-V Summit Europe approaches, many will look forward to seeing the early prototype of the RISC-V Mainboard in action and learning more about this exciting project.

ARM’s aspiration to capture 50 percent of the PC market is optimistic

ARM’s aspiration to capture 50 percent of the PC market is optimistic


Took AMD seven years of Zen to get 20 - 25 percent of laptop

ARM's CEO, Rene Haas, is extremely optimistic, claiming that ARM will capture 50 percent of the PC market share within five years. It has been five years since ARM introduced the Cortex X1, which, apart from the Qualcomm 8CX Gen 3, has not made a significant impact on the market.

ARM’s journey towards competing with PCs started in late 2017 with the Snapdragon 835, a CPU made for phones that was able to run Windows in a fanless, always-connected PC.

In 2018, ARM compared its performance increase to the Hercules Cortex X1, which was supposed to outperform the Core i5 Cascade Lake 10th generation core, but it didn't. The only Cortex X1-based PC ever shipped available in Q1 2022 was the Snapdragon 8CX Gen 3. There is a loud rumor about exclusivity that might be preventing others from entering the Windows on PC battle, at least for the next few quarters.

The Snapdragon X Elite is expected to increase ARM's market share, and excitement is certainly high as it brings a new dynamic to the market. It has always been up to Microsoft to create a decent ARM-based OS and up to hardware manufacturers to produce high-performance parts. Still, ARM and Qualcomm are not exactly in harmony these days as ARM believes it can do well with its own Cortex roadmap while Qualcomm believes that Nuvia based core inside Snapdragon Elite is the way forward. 

History lesson

It took AMD seven years to achieve a market share of over 30 percent in the data center market, despite their initial hope of achieving this within two years. AMD's market share in the notebook market peaked at 24 percent in Q2 2022 and then dropped to 19.3 percent in Q1 2024, due to data center wafer prioritization.

AMD’s last few mobile generations are quite competitive and good, and the AMD 8040 Hawk Point is a highly competitive product, but it was just hard to find. Bringing a product to market and winning new and significant design slots is challenging.

AMD's success is largely due to the fact that Intel was stuck at 14nm and unable to move to 10nm and below. The reality in the market today is different. Intel shipped 8 million Intel 4 chips and promises to deliver 40 million more AIPCs before the end of the year. Lunar Lake, based on 3nm N3B, is announced to be shipping in Q3 2024, and it is the first PC manufacturer to move to 3nm after Apple.

Furthermore, it appears that Intel is on track with its Intel 20A and 18A, and Lunar Lake looks like the greatest revamp in the history of mobile PC processors.

Let’s come back in 2029 and see how this aged.

 

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  • Cooler Master shows Mini X mini PC at Computex 2024bobo [AT] fudzilla [DOT] com (Slobodan Simic)
    Computex 2024: Based on Intel's Meteor Lake Cooler Master brought plenty of new PC cases and gaming peripherals to the Computex 2024 show, but it also unveiled a small desktop PC based on Intel's Meteor Lake, called the Cooler Master Mini X. With support for up to an Intel Core Ultra 7 Meteor Lake CPU, the Cooler Master Mini X was spotted by Cowcotland. Pictures show a rather neat mini PC case with proprietary vapor chamber cooling technology. This, according to Cooler Master, allows the Core U
     

Cooler Master shows Mini X mini PC at Computex 2024

Cooler Master shows Mini X mini PC at Computex 2024


Computex 2024: Based on Intel's Meteor Lake

Cooler Master brought plenty of new PC cases and gaming peripherals to the Computex 2024 show, but it also unveiled a small desktop PC based on Intel's Meteor Lake, called the Cooler Master Mini X.

With support for up to an Intel Core Ultra 7 Meteor Lake CPU, the Cooler Master Mini X was spotted by Cowcotland. Pictures show a rather neat mini PC case with proprietary vapor chamber cooling technology. This, according to Cooler Master, allows the Core Ultra 5 125H or the Core Ultra 7 155H to run at up to 45W, rather than 28W. The demo unit even ran the CPU at up to 75W without the fan hitting full speed.

The rest of the specifications included support for up to 64GB of DDR5-5600 memory, an M.2 SSD, and integrated WiFi 6 connectivity. It also gets 2.5Gb ethernet, a couple of HDMI outputs, and plenty of USB ports, including two Thunderbolt 4 ports.

Unfortunately, Cooler Master is still not ready to talk about the release date or the price.

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  • Leaks show Zen 5 Strix might disappointnick [AT] fudzilla [DOT] com (Nick Farrell)
    Trails behind older Intel Core i7-12700F and mobile Intel Core i7-13850HX New alleged benchmarks have surfaced online for the upcoming AMD Zen 5 Strix Point processors. While it might outdo the Ryzen 7 7700X and the Ryzen 7 7800X3D, it is still behind Intel's older gear. This tech tipster, HXL, chucked a tweet out there saying an early version of the Strix Point CPU got put through its paces on Blender and notched up a score of 270.92. That's enough to outdo some beefy desktop CPUs like the Ryz
     

Leaks show Zen 5 Strix might disappoint

Leaks show Zen 5 Strix might disappoint


Trails behind older Intel Core i7-12700F and mobile Intel Core i7-13850HX

New alleged benchmarks have surfaced online for the upcoming AMD Zen 5 Strix Point processors. While it might outdo the Ryzen 7 7700X and the Ryzen 7 7800X3D, it is still behind Intel's older gear.

This tech tipster, HXL, chucked a tweet out there saying an early version of the Strix Point CPU got put through its paces on Blender and notched up a score of 270.92. That's enough to outdo some beefy desktop CPUs like the Ryzen 7 7700X and the Ryzen 7 7800X3D.

Only a couple of tests have been done, so it's not a massive amount of data, but if it's legit, it's a cheeky peek at what AMD's new AI chips might be capable of. It's all a bit hush-hush about which Strix Point CPU it was, and since it's an early sample, we don't know the full power it's packing, but it's looking good.

Even with this, the tested Strix Point CPU is still trailing behind the older Intel Core i7-12700F and the mobile Intel Core i7-13850HX. Rumour has it it's a 12-core chip with four big performance cores and eight smaller efficiency cores, which might explain why it's not quite up there with Alder Lake and the other non-hybrid chips.

From what's been leaked before, we've seen Strix Point CPUs with slower clock speeds and beefier NPUs, which is a bit of a leap from the usual desktop gear. The big dog of the pack is meant to be the AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 170, rocking 12 cores, 24 threads, and a 77 TOPS NPU.

AI computing is a whole different game, isn't it? It's pretty cool to see these Strix Point CPUs holding their ground against the desktop big guns, but they're playing by their own rules. It looks like AMD is thinking more about smart efficiency than brute force.

It's a bit of a switch-up from what we've seen with CPUs lately. Usually, they're all about cranking up the clock speeds and power to keep up. But now, it seems like we're going the other way – less juice, slower clocks, but more of those efficient efficiency cores.

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  • Sabrent announces new Rocket 4 2242 Gen 4 NVMe SSDbobo [AT] fudzilla [DOT] com (Slobodan Simic)
    Sabrent has announced the new Rocket 2242 M.2 Gen 4 NVMe SSD, based on a rather short M.2-2242 form factor, which is often used with some handheld consoles, like the Lenovo Legion Go. Currently available only in 1TB version, the new Rocket 4 2242 uses Phison's E27T DRAM-less controller, combined with Kioxia's 162-layer 3D TLC NAND. Unfortunately, Sabrent did not reveal any specifications, other than the "up to 5GB/s or more with PCIe 4.0 slot" performance estimate. As said, the new Rocket 4 224
     

Sabrent announces new Rocket 4 2242 Gen 4 NVMe SSD

Sabrent announces new Rocket 4 2242 Gen 4 NVMe SSD


Sabrent has announced the new Rocket 2242 M.2 Gen 4 NVMe SSD, based on a rather short M.2-2242 form factor, which is often used with some handheld consoles, like the Lenovo Legion Go.

Currently available only in 1TB version, the new Rocket 4 2242 uses Phison's E27T DRAM-less controller, combined with Kioxia's 162-layer 3D TLC NAND. Unfortunately, Sabrent did not reveal any specifications, other than the "up to 5GB/s or more with PCIe 4.0 slot" performance estimate.

As said, the new Rocket 4 2242 SSD is designed for space-limited devices, like the Lenovo Legion Go handheld console, some Lenovo Thinkpads, and other devices. Of course, it still works in most motherboards with standoff changes, add-in cards, enclosures, and cloners, as it can be extended to the M.2 2280+ form factor.

The new Sabrent Rocket 4 2242 1TB SSD is currently available at Amazon.com for $129.99 and Sabrent's own shop for $99.99.

 

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  • AMD confirms sampling of Zen 5 EPYC Turin processorsbobo [AT] fudzilla [DOT] com (Slobodan Simic)
    Silicon looks great and is on track to launch later this year During its Q1 2024 financial report, AMD confirmed the status of its future products, including the Zen 5 CPU architecture, namely EPYC Turing CPUs. According to AMD's CEO, Dr. Lisa Su, the company is already widely sampling Turin, and it is satisfied with how the silicon is looking. When it comes to the cloud market, the company expects to capture an even larger share of both first- and third-party workloads due to the significant p
     

AMD confirms sampling of Zen 5 EPYC Turin processors

AMD confirms sampling of Zen 5 EPYC Turin processors


Silicon looks great and is on track to launch later this year

During its Q1 2024 financial report, AMD confirmed the status of its future products, including the Zen 5 CPU architecture, namely EPYC Turing CPUs.

According to AMD's CEO, Dr. Lisa Su, the company is already widely sampling Turin, and it is satisfied with how the silicon is looking. When it comes to the cloud market, the company expects to capture an even larger share of both first- and third-party workloads due to the significant performance and efficiency improvements that Turing is currently showing. On the server side, AMD expects 30 percent more Turin platforms, compared to Genoa.

AMD was keen to note that Turin remains on track to launch later this year.

"Looking ahead, we are very excited about our next-gen Turin family of EPYC processors featuring our Gen 5 core," said AMD's CEO, Dr. Lisa Su, chief executive officer of AMD. "We are widely sampling Turin, and the silicon is looking great. In the cloud, the significant performance and efficiency increases of Turin position us well to capture an even larger share of both first and third-party workloads."

"In addition, there are 30% more Turin platforms in development from our server partners, compared to 4th Generation EPYC platforms, increasing our enterprise and with new solutions optimized for additional workloads." Turin remains on track to launch later this year," she added during the financial call with investors and analysts. (via SeekingAlpha.com)

 

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  • Z80 chip finally retirednick [AT] fudzilla [DOT] com (Nick Farrell)
    Been available for 48 years After a venerable 48-year tenure, Zilog is bidding farewell to the Z80. Initially an offshoot from the Intel 8080 project, this chip ascended to fame as one of the most cherished and extensively utilised 8-bit CPUs in gaming and general computing. The legendary integrated circuit, crafted by Federico Faggin, will only be available for a few months for enthusiasts to place their orders before Zilog's manufacturing ally withdraws support for this venerable technology.
     

Z80 chip finally retired

Z80 chip finally retired


Been available for 48 years

After a venerable 48-year tenure, Zilog is bidding farewell to the Z80. Initially an offshoot from the Intel 8080 project, this chip ascended to fame as one of the most cherished and extensively utilised 8-bit CPUs in gaming and general computing.

The legendary integrated circuit, crafted by Federico Faggin, will only be available for a few months for enthusiasts to place their orders before Zilog's manufacturing ally withdraws support for this venerable technology.

According to Techspot, Zilog's announcement states that the Wafer Foundry Manufacturer (WFM) will halt the acceptance of "last time buy" (LTB) orders for the residual Z80 products come mid-June.

Zilog will then orchestrate and timetable LTB orders for the Z80 based on customer demand, while WFM will subsequently confirm the actual delivery dates. Depending on the aggregate LTB demand, the company might enforce more stringent stipulations on the minimum and maximum order quantities.

Federico Faggin, erstwhile Intel engineer and Zilog's founder embarked on this venture in 1974 following his involvement with the Intel 4004, the pioneering 4-bit CPU. The Zilog Z80 debuted in July 1976, envisioned as a software-compatible "extension" and refinement of the Intel 8080 processor.

Conceived by a small team of 12, the Z80 achieved extraordinary success, propelling Zilog to inaugurate its own chip fabrication facilities and swell its workforce to over a thousand within a mere two years. Initially intended for embedded systems, much like its Intel progenitor, the Z80 evolved into a pivotal component in gaming hardware from the 1970s through to the mid-1980s.

The Z80's influence reverberated through the realms of home computers and gaming consoles, leaving an indelible mark on the industry. It powered Sega's Master System and SG-1000, as well as Nintendo's Game Boy and Game Boy Color, bringing joy to countless gamers. It also played a pivotal role in the creation of many iconic arcade games, including the original Pac-Man. Beyond gaming, this 8-bit processor found utility in military hardware, musical synthesizers such as the Roland Jupiter-8, and a plethora of other electronic gadgets, underscoring its versatility and impact.

Zilog disseminated its Z80 blueprint to American firms Synertek and Mostek, bolstering Faggin's production capabilities, and to European giant SGS/STMicroelectronics. The CPU's design was subsequently emulated by manufacturers in Japan, Eastern Europe, and the Soviet Union, while conglomerates like NEC, Toshiba, Sharp, and Hitachi churned out their compatible chip variants.

Zilog has pivoted Z80 production back towards the embedded device sector, delivering advanced microcontroller offerings that maintain compatibility with the original Z80 and Z180 architectures.

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  • Sabrent announces new Rocket 5 M.2 NVMe Gen 5 SSDbobo [AT] fudzilla [DOT] com (Slobodan Simic)
    Phison Max14um controller peaking at 14GB/s Sabrent has announced its latest flagship M.2 NVMe SSD, the Rocket 5. Pairing up the latest Phison with Micron 3D TLC NAND, DRAM cache, the Rocket 5 will peak at 14GB/s and come in capacities of up to 4TB. As said, for its newest flagship M.2 NVMe SSD, Sabrent is going all in, pairing up the latest Phison PS5026-E26 Max14um controller with Micron B58R 232-layer 3D TLC NAND flash memory and equipping it with LPDDR4-based DRAM cache. While Sabrent did n
     

Sabrent announces new Rocket 5 M.2 NVMe Gen 5 SSD

Sabrent announces new Rocket 5 M.2 NVMe Gen 5 SSD


Phison Max14um controller peaking at 14GB/s

Sabrent has announced its latest flagship M.2 NVMe SSD, the Rocket 5. Pairing up the latest Phison with Micron 3D TLC NAND, DRAM cache, the Rocket 5 will peak at 14GB/s and come in capacities of up to 4TB.

As said, for its newest flagship M.2 NVMe SSD, Sabrent is going all in, pairing up the latest Phison PS5026-E26 Max14um controller with Micron B58R 232-layer 3D TLC NAND flash memory and equipping it with LPDDR4-based DRAM cache. While Sabrent did not reveal any precise details, it did say that the Rocket 5 will peak at 14GB/s and 12GB/s sequential read and write transfer speeds, with 1.55M IOPS 4K random read and 1.8M IOPS 4K random write.

The Rocket 5 will replace the Rocket 4 Plus as the flagship SSD, and currently, the Rocket 5 is available on Amazon for $729.99 for the 4TB version, $339.99 for the 2TB one, and $190.17 for the 1TB version.

- SABRENT Rocket 5 4TB Advanced Performance Internal M.2 PCIe GEN 5 14GB/s X4 NVMe SSD - $729.99 at Amazon.com

- SABRENT Rocket 5 2TB Advanced Performance Internal M.2 PCIe GEN 5 14GB/s X4 NVMe SSD - $339.99 at Amazon.com

- SABRENT Rcoket 5 NVMe SSD M.2 1TB Gen 5 - $190.17 at Amazon.com

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  • AMD's AI chatbot releasednick [AT] fudzilla [DOT] com (Nick Farrell)
    Uses third party app AMD has just launched its own local and GPT-based LLM-powered AI chatbot, that works on Ryzen AI processors and Radeon RX 7000 series GPUs. AMD's new LLM-based GPT chatbot can work on many different Ryzen AI platforms, including Ryzen 7000 and Ryzen 8000 series APUs that have AMD's new XDNA NPUs and Radeon RX 7000 series GPUs that have AI accelerator cores. The company released a new blog that explains how to set it up so you can run your local chatbot powered by GPT-based
     

AMD's AI chatbot released

AMD's AI chatbot released


Uses third party app

AMD has just launched its own local and GPT-based LLM-powered AI chatbot, that works on Ryzen AI processors and Radeon RX 7000 series GPUs.

AMD's new LLM-based GPT chatbot can work on many different Ryzen AI platforms, including Ryzen 7000 and Ryzen 8000 series APUs that have AMD's new XDNA NPUs and Radeon RX 7000 series GPUs that have AI accelerator cores.

The company released a new blog that explains how to set it up so you can run your local chatbot powered by GPT-based LLMs (Large Language Models). If you have a Ryzen AI processor, you'll need the normal LM Studio copy for Windows, while if you have an RDNA 3-based Radeon RX 7000 series GPU, you'll need the ROCm Technical Preview.

AMD isn't the first to do this. Nvidia recently launched "Chat with RTX," an AI chatbot powered by GeForce RTX 40 and RTX 30 series GPUs. It's sped up with the TensorRT-LLM feature set, offering fast AI results based on local data. AMD is now following their lead with its new LLM-powered ChatGPT chatbot.

You can learn how to set up on AMD's website here

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  • AMD updates FreeSync specifications raising hardware requirementsbobo [AT] fudzilla [DOT] com (Slobodan Simic)
    FullHD monitors now require a 144Hz refresh rate AMD has updated its FreeSync hardware requirements, raising hardware requirements for those FreeSync tier badges. According to an updated list, AMD is keeping the specifications for laptops where they were. In order to get the FreeSync Premium badge, laptops will need to have a maximum refresh rate of at least 120Hz. For monitors and TVs, these requirements got a bit higher, as now FHD monitors (or those sub-3440) and TVs will need a maximum refr
     

AMD updates FreeSync specifications raising hardware requirements

AMD updates FreeSync specifications raising hardware requirements


FullHD monitors now require a 144Hz refresh rate

AMD has updated its FreeSync hardware requirements, raising hardware requirements for those FreeSync tier badges.

According to an updated list, AMD is keeping the specifications for laptops where they were. In order to get the FreeSync Premium badge, laptops will need to have a maximum refresh rate of at least 120Hz. For monitors and TVs, these requirements got a bit higher, as now FHD monitors (or those sub-3440) and TVs will need a maximum refresh rate of at least 144Hz to get the FreeSync badge. For the FreeSync Premium badge, those same monitors and TVs will have to have at least a 200Hz refresh rate.

For monitors and TVs with 2K and 4K resolution, AMD wants at least a 120Hz refresh rate for the FreeSync Premium badge. To get the FreeSync Premium Pro badge, those same monitors and TVs will have to have FreeSync HDR on top of those FreeSync Premium requirements.

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The update was implemented as of September 2023, according to Videocardz.com, but AMD is only reporting on it now, so some of those new monitors with updated FreeSync badges should already fit under those requirements.

 

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  • 10 Gift Ideas for the Computer Builder in Your LifeJordan
    What gift do you get this holiday season for the computer builder in your life? Well, first of all, probably not computer parts! Unless they’ve asked for a specific component, there’s a good chance you’d be giving them something redundant or unwanted. But don’t worry! There are still plenty of things that the average PC builder could receive that are almost never redundant (like additional storage space) or which a builder is unlikely to have bought for themselves (like an uninterruptible power
     

10 Gift Ideas for the Computer Builder in Your Life

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Gift Ideas for PC Builders

What gift do you get this holiday season for the computer builder in your life?

Well, first of all, probably not computer parts! Unless they’ve asked for a specific component, there’s a good chance you’d be giving them something redundant or unwanted.

But don’t worry! There are still plenty of things that the average PC builder could receive that are almost never redundant (like additional storage space) or which a builder is unlikely to have bought for themselves (like an uninterruptible power supply). Good gift ideas for PC building enthusiasts are what this list is all about.

The following 10 gifts ideas cover a spectrum of prices, and are sure to find use on or near the desk of any friend or family member who’s into building computers. Of course, suggestions you get directly from the intended recipient should always be prioritized; but if you haven’t received any guidance from them, these ideas will surely come in handy. Let’s begin!


Tier 1 Gifts ($1-50)

 

The first tier of gifts is the lowest in price and has the most examples. These gifts will find use by both novice and experienced builders alike.

#1 – Headphone Stand ($9)

A straightforward gift that is enough of an unnecessary nicety that most computer builders won’t already have one. Yet it’s useful enough to be used everyday, while being cheap enough to choose as a budget gift or to throw in as a stocking stuffer. By simply offering a place to safely store headphones, this gift clears up desktop space and provides a cleaner appearance overall.

*Headphones, of course, not included! Unless you also buy gift #9…

 

#2 – Multiport Power Strip Surge Protector ($22)

Despite their solid metal construction and aggressive, angular designs, computers are soft and temperamental on the inside, particularly regarding electricity. It’s important to ensure that any unexpected changes in the power supplying a PC are controlled by an external device so no expensive components are damaged or destroyed. A surge protector like this one from reliable power accessory brand Anker will prevent unexpected pulses of electricity from damaging computer components while also expanding the number of power ports near the PC, all for only $22! Help the computer builder in your life replace the little ratty power strip they’ve been using since 2014; it’s time for it to go.

#3 – All-in-one Univeral Wireless Charging Pad ($30)

Another gift idea from Anker is their all-in-one wireless charging pad. Having a wireless charger on my own desk has been incredibly convenient and keeps my phone charged up while working from home for evenings, where I don’t have access to another charger. Many high-wattage charging pads require special power adapters to maximize their charging potential, but they often aren’t included with the pad itself. This universal charging pad includes a full adapter built in for no-fuss universal charging straight out of the box. Whether they have an Android or an iPhone, they’ll appreciate having such a convenient location to charge their phone!

#4 – Essential Electronics Toolkit ($30)

Working on computers doesn’t inherently require much more than a screwdriver and some resolve, but having this iFixit essential electronics toolkit would have made my days repairing laptops, computers, and smartphones significantly easier. Including both essential tools like various magnetic screwdriver bits and plastic separators, this kit also includes a variety of useful specialty bits for unique parts and electronics, as well as a couple cleaning tools that are sure to find use in any computer builder’s tool box. As I indicated a moment ago, these tools can also be used to repair laptops and smartphones—provided all appropriate safety and warranty measures are followed, of course!


Tier 2 Gifts ($51-100)

 

This second tier steps up the price range and has two examples. They remain general enough to find use no matter the experience level of the recipient, while some of the next section is a bit more niche.

#5 – Bluetooth Desk Speakers ($50)

For many computer builders, their audio experience ends with a headphone cable. Speakers alternatively provide a more relaxed listening experience without the headgear, even at volumes low enough to avoid disturbing house- or room-mates. This speaker pair from Edifer features 2.75 inch drivers and a compact design that doesn’t dominate valuable desk space. They can even be placed anywhere thanks to their Bluetooth connectivity, whether that’s a desktop, a bookshelf, or a TV stand. Or they can be connected to a laptop instead, and used as a mobile pair of speakers for parties, elegant dinner events, and various other soirées.

#6 – 2TB External Hard Drive ($70)

External hard drives can store large amounts of data and can be transported anywhere, making them great gifts for computer-savvy travelers that like to watch media on the go. They can load the drive with shows and movies and bring it with them for direct playback on a laptop or tablet, keep it at home and stream directly from it over another service like Plex, or simply use it as a backup for their important data. This Western Digital My Passport drive is a reliable option with plenty of storage for most applications, but it would also be possible to scale this gift up or down according to your gift budget and how much storage you think your gift recipient could use! A lower-capacity 1TB version can be had for $50, or you can spring for up to a 5TB version for $120 if you happen to know a real data hoarder. For reference, to make more sense of what 1TB can hold, it is capable of storing ~158 copies of a 1080p version of the movie Scorpion King 2: Rise of a Warrior. That’s a terrible movie—but what they do with the drive is up to them, so we won’t judge. If the intended gift recipient really loves collecting media or really prizes backing up their work, it may be best to spring for 2TB or greater.


Tier 3 Gifts  ($101-150)

 

This third tier of gifts has three examples at a higher price range than tier 2: a DAC/Amp to boost audio experiences, a more premium storage solution, and a nice pair of headphones at a great price!

#7 – Digital-to-Analog Converter / Amplifier for Headphones ($110)

A Digital-to-Analog Converter, shortened to DAC, is a device that translates a computer’s audio output from digital to analogue, which increases the fidelity of the signal. This gift is a great idea for those with a particular interest in music or even movies and games, as it can increase the quality of computer audio dramatically while the included amplifier permits more powerful higher-impedance headphones to be used. Even “standard” headphones will see a benefit from this compact DAC that requires nothing outside of the box before use. If you’re okay with the gift being less than a surprise, then it may be worth checking if the recipient has a DAC already before buying… though that rule applies to pretty much any gift in this price range and above!

#8 – 2TB M.2 Solid State Drive ($130)

Most computer motherboards now have at least one M.2 SSD slot on them, and the Samsung 980 PRO EVO is a great drive that fits perfectly into that very space. Solid State Drives still command higher prices than traditional hard drives for a given capacity, but their significantly faster transfer speeds and slightly better longevity for most users ensure that any data loaded on the drive can be accessed quickly and reliably. This high-capacity SSD can store dozens of large games while also cutting down on loading times, or an entire library of movies and TV shows. No matter the intended use, this drive would be a welcome gift for any level of computer enthusiast with a port in their machine that can accommodate it. Looking to spend a little less but still want to get them a high-speed internal drive like this one? Select the 1TB option to bring it down to $80!

#9 – Over-the-ear Open-back Audiophile Headphones ($150)

Alright, call me a little biased on this one since these are the headphones I currently use myself, but that just means I’m speaking from experience when I recommend these to anyone who may enjoy a nice set of wired, open-back headphones for their desktop at home. For the current price of $150, this luxurious set is a steal and has far surpassed the audio quality of every other pair of headphones I’ve tried in this price range (even without a DAC). They’re lightweight, comfortable, and have a great sound profile for a huge range of uses, from gaming to watching media to listening to music.


Tier 4 Gift ($151+)

 

This is the final, most expensive tier of the list. It includes but a single gift, for those who can afford to provide extra stability to a desktop computer this holiday season:

#10 – 600-Watt Uninterruptible Power Supply ($165)

An Uninterruptible Power Supply, shortened to UPS, is a power storage system which continues powering a PC for a limited time in the event of a power outage. The idea is that the power supplied by a UPS is enough to safely shut the computer down in the event of an outage, preventing both data loss and component damage in the process. This particular power supply from CyberPower features 12 outlets, half of them linked to the battery system, and all of them surge-protected at all times. This $165 model is capable of putting out 600 Watts of power, which is enough for most computers, but a few ultra-powerful builds may require the 880-Watt version for $200.


And that concludes our list! As always, these ideas are just suggestions and can be tailored to suit the needs of the recipient, such as tweaking the max output of the UPS or the capacity of the SSD, or as ideas for similar gifts. Have another idea for a gift that a computer builder would probably enjoy? Let us know what it is in the comments!

Thanks for reading!

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  • What Logical Increments Tier is Required to Run the Most Popular Steam Games?Nigel Delmore
    (Information on Steam’s top games were gathered for this article from Steam Charts) Back in January 2020, I crafted a neat little piece discussing the Logical Increments tier needed to enjoy each of the top games on Steam at the time. Fast forward to now, and oh, how the scene has shifted! Back around that period, we were seeing trade tariffs causing a good bump in prices for PC hardware​. As we ventured into late 2020, high demand meant the cost of PC parts kept climbing, and 2021 brought even
     

What Logical Increments Tier is Required to Run the Most Popular Steam Games?

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(Information on Steam’s top games were gathered for this article from Steam Charts)

Back in January 2020, I crafted a neat little piece discussing the Logical Increments tier needed to enjoy each of the top games on Steam at the time. Fast forward to now, and oh, how the scene has shifted! Back around that period, we were seeing trade tariffs causing a good bump in prices for PC hardware​. As we ventured into late 2020, high demand meant the cost of PC parts kept climbing, and 2021 brought even higher prices—especially for graphics cards due to a cryptocurrency boom. Oh, and let’s not forget, the world was just getting acquainted with Covid-19, adding a whole new level of complexity to tech market dynamics through supply chain issues.

Now, at the tail end of 2023, with prices and availability having normalized in some (though not all) component categories, and just a week left until Black Friday and Cyber Monday, it’s about time we take a fresh look at what Logical Increments PC building tier you’d need to dive into the most popular Steam games today. Let’s see what changed in the last few years, and whether that ol’ system still has some life in it, or whether it might be worth a little upgrade. Stick around as we unpack the current gaming demands and discuss today’s tech landscape.
 

Criteria:

 

Logical Increments keeps its primary tier list consistently updated, showing you the cost of building systems geared towards particular performance milestones. From the humble ‘Destitute’ system to the jaw-dropping ‘Monstrous’ setup, it shows what is attainable at each price point, offers a roadmap for some upgrading, and generally makes it convenient to knit together a balanced system with top-notch parts.

With that list in hand, we can match each of the most popular games on Steam right now with a Logical Increments tier. In this piece, I cross-referenced the 8 most played Steam games with our tier list to see what is required to hit 60 frames per second at 1080p (referenced as 1080p60), 120 frames per second at 1440p (referenced as 1440p120), and 60 frames per second at 4K (referenced as 4k60).

Last time, I stuck to two non-negotiables for a system to land in a specific category. This time I made a few changes:

  • The lion’s share of the time, we’re talking 99% or more, it had to cruise within 10% of the minimum frames per second or higher at the chosen resolution. So, I care more about the ‘minimum’ than the ‘average’ frames per second.
  • It had to strut with at least very high graphical settings.

What should you do with this information? Find the games you play most often, or at least the games that interest you. Look at the resolution and frames per second you’re interested in, and (assuming you’re not bursting your budget), get the suggested tier for a satisfying, pleasant experience. You won’t have any regrets, as these systems have been vetted to ensure a proper balance of performance and price.

Now, let’s get on with what you came here for! On with the games!

 

Games:

Counter-Strike 2

Counter-Strike 2 is the freshest iteration in the cherished Counter-Strike series, known for its intense competitive gameplay that’s been honed by Valve (and then by millions of players worldwide over two decades). Built on the Source 2 engine, this game was released on September 27, 2023, 11 years after CS:GO. Interestingly, even though it had a massive graphical upgrade and several systems were overhauled (to the disappointment of some), the minimum specifications haven’t really changed that much. Really, any gaming computer built in the last 5 years would be able to run this at 1080p60 without any issues. But I digress. Here are my recommendations:

1080p60 1440p120 4k60
Modest Tier Superb Tier Superb Tier
An RX 6500XT 4GB, RX 580 8GB, or GTX 1060 6GB would be plenty to run CS2 at this tier of performance. In fact, the above graphics cards would run it in excess of 80 FPS on average, but I wanted the minimum to be above 54 FPS. If you needed to save some money, you could get away with the Great tier, but Superb provides some extra smoothness and stability using those more graphically intensive parts. It’s actually pretty similar to the 1440p120 tier. I am not overly surprised as both 1440p120 and 4k60 are pushing out a similar number of total pixels per second.

DotA 2

Dota 2

Another Source 2 engine game. Last time, I said that “the multiplayer online battle arena (MOBA) Dota 2 was officially released in 2013, and quickly rose in ranks to become one of the most popular games on Steam. Allowing for a range of different gameplay styles, such as strategical and tactical or more aggressive, you can play the game almost any way you want. It has a fairly steep learning curve, and can be an exercise in frustration for newcomers, but once you get the hang of the controls you’ll be greeted with fun, exciting gameplay.” Not much has changed on that front, so let’s see if the recommendations have changed:

1080p60 1440p120 4k60
Entry Tier Great Tier Good Tier
Similar to last time, I feel that a dedicated graphics card would help immensely keeping the minimum FPS above 60. If you went with the Minimum Tier you’d be getting framerate dips down to below 40 FPS. Not desirable. This surprised me a little. This system would comfortably push 200 FPS normally, but it would also drop to around 109 FPS on occasion. If you don’t care about smoothness that much, or you’re happy to drop settings, I think you could get away with the Good Tier. Huh, you don’t need as powerful a GPU at 4k60 compared to 1440p120! Probably because the CPU doesn’t need to push as hard. At the Good tier, you can reach a minimum of 69 FPS, and average around 135 FPS.

PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds (PUBG)

PUBG

Released in late 2017, this battle royale game catapulted to the top of Steam’s most popular games, and it hasn’t really dropped from the list. Thankfully, it’s a lot more stable to run these days; in the early years, there were stability and optimisation problems, but hey, that’s now mostly a worry of the past.

1080p60 1440p120 4k60
Modest Tier Great Tier Great Tier
This tier will run this game at a comfortable average of 79 FPS, sometimes dipping down to 55 FPS. Considering the minimal price difference between this tier and the Entry tier, this is definitely the one to go for. With the Great tier, you’re getting a comfortable minimum of 109 FPS, averaging around 161 FPS. It seems like you need to pair it with an AMD CPU for that tier, because with the same graphics card, using the i5-13600KF (from the Superb tier) instead of the R5 7600 causes a minor drop in FPS. Not significantly, but enough to bring it below the standards outlined above. With the CPU working less hard in the 4K tier compared to 1440p120, you could use the i5-13600KF and still achieve stable FPS. But I’d still stick with the specified Great tier and use the R5 7600.

Baldur’s Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

A role-playing game released in early August, 2023. Baldur’s Gate 3 received high praise for its narrative, gameplay, and player choice. It has a fantastic amount of flexibility and replayability. You really can play this game any way you want. Its popularity has surprised its creators though, with a peak of around 800,000 players on release, and a current count still above 100,000 months later. The suggestions below include using upscaling technology in the game’s settings; if you don’t want to use it, I suggest going up a tier or two.

1080p60 1440p120 4k60
Modest Tier Great Tier Great Tier
Considering the minimum specs, the equivalent current-generation tier would be the Modest tier. You’d get respectable performance with this. With the Great tier, the RTX 3070 can comfortably push 100+ FPS using upscaling tech, though it will fare slightly worse in Act 3 in the big city. Similarly to 1440p120, the Great Tier is perfectly fine for 4k60 as long as you use upscaling tech.

Apex Legends

Apex Legends

Apex Legends is a battle royale game released in February 2019. Though it’s another game built on the Source engine, it isn’t similar to Counter-Strike 2 and Dota 2 because the engine of Apex Legends is a fork of the original Source engine from around the time Portal 2 came out. I’d argue that Apex Legends is really pushing the original Source engine to its limits, so I’m interested to see how well it performs on lower-tier systems. Without further ado, let’s check out the recommendations:

1080p60 1440p120 4k60
Modest Tier Great Tier Great Tier
This game can push out over 60 FPS minimum on an RX 6400, so I’m comfortable recommending the Modest tier. The Great tier can provide excellent performance, pushing close to 110 FPS minimums and averaging over 150 FPS. The Great tier is also fantastic at this resolution, offering minimums just a smidge below 60 FPS and averaging closer to 77 FPS.

Team Fortress 2

Last time, I said that it’s “nearly impossible to get good data on how well current GPUs run this game.” And you know what? That still holds true today, thanks to the age of the game. Team Fortress 2 has been running for around 15 years, and still has popularity and longevity. Which makes perfect sense to me; it’s a great game! My only question is about how well-supported current-generation graphics cards are, comparatively. So, with some interpolation of available data, here are the choices I’ve made:

1080p60 1440p120 4k60
Entry Tier Modest Tier Modest Tier
Similar to last time, the integrated graphics on an AMD APU is enough for this game. Getting the Entry tier with the R5 5600G means you could pop in a dedicated graphics card in the future, knowing your CPU is powerful enough and won’t bottleneck your system. An entry-level dedicated graphics card should do well here. I would get the RX 6500 XT over the RX 6400 in this case, but I expect this to run well on this hardware. Since 4k60 pushes only slightly more pixels per second than 1440p120, and lower frame rates tend to be more stable, I’m comfortable recommending the Modest Tier here as well.

Call of Duty

Call of Duty

So, this part encompasses Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III, Modern Warfare II, and Warzone. Having both solid single-player campaigns and a “multiplayer combat arena with battle royales, resurgence and DMZ” this game, whose earliest member came out in 2022, does require a powerful system to get the most out of it. I definitely recommend using upscaling tech like DLSS or FSR if the visual artifacts don’t bother you.

1080p60 1440p120 4k60
Great Tier Outstanding Tier Outstanding Tier
The Great tier is really required to push this game. Though you’ll get averages of around 90 FPS, the minimums are just under 60 FPS at native resolution. You could drop a tier if you run it as a balanced preset instead. Check out whether upscaling tech is helpful or degrades your image quality too much. At this tier, you should be able to use upscaling tech and still maintain high-quality graphics. Without it, your minimum FPS drops to around 90, and at this stage you really want to get 100 FPS minimums for proper smoothness. Again, we see an overlap in requirements for this column and the previous one, so the Outstanding tier is my recommendation here too.

The Finals

The Finals

A really recent entry, The Finals is a new shooter game that’s just been released. As in, I was typing this section the day The Finals was released (in open beta) so there’s not a huge amount of information available yet. To further exacerbate this situation, the system requirements on Steam all say TBD. Lovely. But that doesn’t mean there’s zero info, and we can extrapolate data from similar games and similar engines as well. Anyway, this game is much more arcade-like, and has some really solid destruction physics. Keep in mind though that at present this is in beta, so stability and optimisation isn’t the best yet (and may not be the devs’ current priority).

1080p60 1440p120 4k60
Modest Tier Enthusiast Tier Exceptional Tier
You definitely want a dedicated graphics card for this game, but it doesn’t seem to require too much to run. An RX 6500XT is my recommendation over the RX 6400. Quite the jump up between the two tiers. Now, I’m removing ray-tracing from the equation here, because you’d definitely need something stronger than this otherwise. As I’ve mentioned before, 4k60 pushes a relalitvely small number of additional pixels per second when compared to 1440p120. But the CPU doesn’t have to work quite as hard at lower frame rates, and lower numbers tend to be more stable. Hence the Exceptional tier works here.

 

Conclusion:

 

Something that surprised me was that for the most part, 4k60 required the same tier as 1440p120, or sometimes even the tier below. Personally, I prefer 1440p120 over 4k60—but for slower, single-player games it’s worth knowing. Nonetheless, whether you are chasing the thrill of multiplayer games like The Finals or Apex Legends, or getting immersed in the narrative of Baldur’s Gate 3, getting the right hardware is instrumental to a good experience.

It’s not just enough to look at the average frame rates, but the minimum you’ll get as well. You want to ensure the experience stays smooth, which is what my analysis has done here. It is fantastic that most of these games don’t require powerful hardware. You can get a fully enjoyable experience at 1080p60 with a fairly budget-oriented system. So, even though games continue to evolve and push new heights with new releases and updated versions, you can still be assured that your old favourites will be hanging around for years to come, and that you’ll have the system to run them.

 

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  • Graphics Cards are Expensive in 2023 – Can Used GPUs Come to the Rescue?Daniel Dromboski
    Today we’re taking a look at used vs. new GPU prices, and whether buying a used graphics card is worth your while. But before we dive in, some context:   Graphics Cards are Expensive in 2023   Regular readers of this blog will know that, arguably, PC parts are headed in the wrong direction. To illustrate that point, let’s go back in time. With the help of the wonderful Internet Archive, we can see that as recently as 2017 there were very affordable GPUs on the Logical Increments charts, starti
     

Graphics Cards are Expensive in 2023 – Can Used GPUs Come to the Rescue?

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Today we’re taking a look at used vs. new GPU prices, and whether buying a used graphics card is worth your while.

But before we dive in, some context:

 

Graphics Cards are Expensive in 2023

 

Regular readers of this blog will know that, arguably, PC parts are headed in the wrong direction.

To illustrate that point, let’s go back in time. With the help of the wonderful Internet Archive, we can see that as recently as 2017 there were very affordable GPUs on the Logical Increments charts, starting as low as $50, and appearing in the “Minimum” tier.

From about 2018 on to the present day, the cheapest standalone GPU has appeared on the charts at a relatively whopping $90-$100, in the “Entry” tier, an entire tier above “Minimum” for performance.

GPU prices are higher in every single tier if comparing 2018’s chart to today’s. (Excluding 2018’s “Extremist” and “Monstrous” tiers at the highest end of the chart, with their ludicrous, dual-wielded GTX 1080s and 1080 Tis. We have single cards strong enough for those rather absurd price tiers now.)

The most extreme comparison is in the “Superb” tier; when contrasting 2018’s chart to today’s, GPU prices for a balanced “Superb” gaming build have fully doubled.

 

Can Used GPU Prices Help Save the Day?

 
It’s a compelling question. You can’t get far in discussing today’s new GPU releases (and their high launch prices!) without someone suggesting you skip today’s latest-generation GPUs entirely, and buy a previous generation or used graphics card instead.

Indeed, the previous generation of cards appear prominently on Logical Increments’ charts. They are generally a great value today.

But what about used cards? Unfortunately, Logical Increments’ official chart doesn’t consider any used PC parts. Understandable, but still a bummer for bargain-hunters.

Don’t tell the Logical Increments staff, but hypothetically, if I had made a ‘used GPU chart’ last month, again just hypothetically speaking…

It would look something like this:
 
 

A Chart for Used GPUs (as of mid-October, 2023)

 

Tier Name New GPU Options
(Official Logical Increments)
New GPU Alternatives
(Unofficial)
Used GPU Alternatives
(Unofficial)
Minimum Integrated GPU ($0) RX 570 4GB ($36)
RX 570 8GB ($60)
Entry RX 550 4GB ($80-90) RX 570 8GB* ($90)
RX 590 ($80-90)
GTX 1660 Super / GTX 1660 Ti ($90-100)
Modest RX 6400 ($135-155) RTX 2060 / RX 5700 ($115-140)
RX 6500 XT ($155) RX 6600 / RX 6600 XT ($150)
Fair / Good / Very Good (Part 1) Arc A580 ($180) RTX 2070 ($175)
Arc A750 / RX 6600 / RX 6600 XT / RX 6650 XT ($220) RTX 2080 / RTX 2080 Super ($205-225)
Very Good (Part 2) RX 7600 ($250-270) RTX 4060** ($290) RX 6700 / RX 6700 XT / RTX 3060 Ti ($230-250)
Arc A770 ($290-320) RTX 2080 Ti / RTX 3070 ($280-310)
Great / Superb (Part 1) RTX 3060 Ti / RX 6700 XT ($320-350)
RX 6750 XT ($345-360) RTX 3070 Ti ($350-375)
Superb (Part 2) RTX 3070 ($360-380) RX 6800 ($365-380)
RX 7700 XT ($440-450) RX 6800 XT / RTX 3080 ($400-430)
Excellent / Outstanding RX 7800 XT / RX 6800 XT ($500-520) RX 6900 XT ($500)
RTX 4070 ($550-560) RX 6950 XT ($500-580)
Exceptional RX 6950 XT ($615-630)

Notes on These Prices

    • The new prices on this chart reflect the latest new GPU prices I saw on the likes of Amazon and Newegg on October 16th, 2023.
    • The used prices on this chart are the best prices I saw on eBay on October 16th, 2023.
    • Price ranges for both new and used GPUs are the lowest prices I could find, while still being able to choose between at least two sellers or variants for the same GPU. (With one exception, see bullet point just below).
    • * As an exception to the above bullet point, the model of new RX 550 4GB linked to on Logical Increments’ official chart was out-of-stock at the time I researched prices for this piece, so I listed the RX 570 8GB as a new alternative. It is available at time of writing at a similar price as shown for the RX 550 on the official chart, but performs better. There is, at time of writing, only one seller for this card selling it new at this price (on Newegg), however.
    • ** The RTX 4060 is mentioned as an additional new price option at Very Good tier, since it has nearly identical performance to the RX 7600 and Arc A770, and identical price to the Arc A770 already included in that tier of the official chart.

Caveat (important!): Used GPU prices change often. This “chart” will probably not be precisely accurate to what you see if you go shopping for used GPUs next week, or even today. If trying to use this as a direct buying guide, your mileage may vary quite a lot.

This is intended more as a “for science” general look at the relative prices of used vs new GPUs. We’re trying to answer the question: “how much value is there in buying a used GPU in late 2023?”

There are two main ways to look at the chart above, comparing used vs. new prices:

 

Two Suggested Uses For This Chart

 

RX 570

    • Same price, better performance:
      • Start by identifying a price tier (or a specific GPU) from the official chart (the column on the left), and view the GPUs in the “Used Alternative” column on the right, from that same tier. This should give you a rough idea of what GPUs one can buy used for the same money as the official (new prices) Logical Increments chart.
    • Same performance, better price:
      • Start by identifying a tier or GPU from the official (new prices) chart, and look one tier above (one tier cheaper) in the “Used Alternative” column. This should give you an idea of what pricing I saw for GPUs with similar performance (in some cases the very same GPU model) but cheaper given the used discount.
      • Keep in mind that some tiers on this chart are quite large, and span a wide range of performance and cost. So, to be safe, compare the cheapest “new” option against the most expensive “Used Alternative” in the cheaper tier above it.

Key Takeaways: “Is Buying a Used Graphics Card Worth It?”

 

So, did we manage to beat the new cards for value? I’d say “mostly yes.” The difference is most pronounced at the lowest-performance end of the chart, but there’s a bit of extra value to be had at most price points when buying used.

To answer that question for yourself, though, you should consider the following key takeaways and additional pieces of information:

Not All Used GPUs Are Good Deals

GPUs from within the same generation, especially with similar names, tend to clump together with a very similar used price, despite large performance differences in some cases. GPUs with better name recognition tend to keep higher prices in the used market compared to more obscure ones. And the most-recent generation of GPUs are rarely very discounted on used shopping sites, to the point where you’d probably just buy those models new if considering them. I attempted to include only the GPUs with good used value in the “Used GPU Alternative” column of my chart.

Looking at benchmarks that directly compare two or more GPUs you’re considering, across multiple games, remains the best way to confirm which of them perform well and which ones aren’t worth the cost.

Low-End GPU Tiers See More Benefit From Buying Used

Let’s take a look at the Modest tier. In ideal circumstances with a strong system (using a good CPU and fast RAM, and so on), an Nvidia RTX 2060 should be roughly twice as fast as an RX 6400. (And the pricing: an RTX 2060 can be bought used for about the same (or slightly less) money as a new RX 6400). That’s double the performance for the same money.

What about Entry tier? Well, if you look one tier up (that’s one tier cheaper) in the “Used Alternatives” column, that’s the same RX 570, but for half the price, albeit with half the VRAM (4 GB). (The 8 GB VRAM version of the RX 570 mostly allows increased texture quality, or dialing up other VRAM-heavy settings like lighting/shadows slightly at some cost to framerate, but without the bad stutters from totally running out of VRAM. The RX 570 isn’t the speediest, so increasing these settings too high won’t be worth the hit to framerate to many gamers. Given the prices, both versions are a good value in my opinion.)

“Okay, sure, the low end has good value used,” I hear you say, “but what about the higher end?”

Savings in the Mid-Tier, but Few True Upgrade Options at the Same Price

Looking at the Fair / Good / Very Good (Part I) combined tier, you can save about $60-$70 buying an RX 6600 or RX 6600 XT used instead of new, a roughly 30% savings.

A used RTX 2070 offers comparable performance to an RX 6600 or Arc A580 at a slight discount. A used RTX 2080 would be somewhat faster than an RX 6600 or RX 6600 XT at a very similar price.

RX 6800 XT

Higher-End Used GPUs Also Offer Savings but Few Upgrade Options

Looking at Superb tier, you can save about $80 on either a 3060 Ti or a 6700 XT by buying used instead of new, a 25% discount. Not too bad. Or one can upgrade to a used RTX 2080 Ti or RTX 3070 for a modest ~10% to ~14% increase in performance respectively, over the 3060 Ti, while still saving a bit of money. (The RTX 2080 Ti has 11 GB of VRAM compared to the RTX 3070’s 8GB VRAM, for shoppers concerned about that.)

In my “Superb Tier (Part II)”, the new RX 7700 XT isn’t an especially strong value — looking at used alternatives, once can upgrade to a used RX 6800 XT for at least a 10% improvement in performance while saving $20-30. Or to a used RTX 3080 at similar performance and slightly more savings ($40-$50), albeit with less VRAM. Or a “sidegrade” from a new RX 7700XT to a used RX 6800 with similar performance (and more VRAM), at a roughly 17% cost savings.

The Used GPU Market Gets Weird Past $500

I wasn’t sure if half the listings I saw in this price range were real, as there were some suspiciously low prices from new eBay users with no feedback/ratings.

Also worth noting: used prices for many current-generation cards at this price point are the same or higher than new! You may have better luck than I did, but I wouldn’t personally spend much over $500 on a used GPU, given what I saw.

 

Some Sketchy Things About Buying Used

 

I’ve seen some sketchy things on eBay while researching this article. Listings for just the box the GPU came in, for hundreds of dollars. Listings for just the heatsink or just the cooler shroud, not the actual GPU itself. Listings for just replacement fans for a given GPU. Listings with broken fans or burn marks. Deals that look too good to be true (and some are – I personally tried to buy a GPU for a price so great it looked like it might have been a typo, but the seller canceled the sale. I was able to get a different GPU for a more realistic price a few days later.)

Tips for Buying on eBay

    • Buying Format: If you’re not comfortable with auctions, and prefer to pay a pre-set price, filter “Buying Format” to show only “Buy it Now” listings. There are also “Accepts Offers” listings, for those who like to haggle. (Remember to be nice!)
    • Condition: There are many broken or “for parts only” listings. Filter the “Condition” to exclude “For parts or not working” listings.
    • Price: There are a surprising number of listings for “GPU accessories”, such as heatsinks, fans, and water blocks. Filter most of these out by setting a minimum price of $100, if the GPU you’re searching for costs over $100. You can skim the first several listings you see for a low price that looks appealing, and set the maximum price filter for about $20 or $30 more than that to see what options there are.
    • Read The Listing Thoroughly Before You Buy: Often the title and photo of the listing will seem totally normal, but the description mentions that one of the fans is dead, there is significant cosmetic damage, or the listing is actually for a broken GPU “for parts only” (despite any attempts you may make at filtering these out). And again, some listings are just the box, or just the heatsink, or a GPU that will ship in the box of a different model entirely, or a listing that mentions another model in passing (which coincidentally makes it show up in searches for that other GPU). Make doubly sure you’re paying for what you intend to, before making the purchase.

You should generally be protected if the item you receive doesn’t match the description. Check eBay’s policies about this for the full details. But, as you likely expect, I cannot personally offer any guarantees to you about how the process will go.

Lastly, there are of course some other factors around buying used PC parts. You get a warranty when buying new, which you usually don’t when buying used (though some refurbished units do come with limited warranty periods). You have to do a bit more research to know what you’re looking for and what’s a decent price. You have to filter out broken GPUs and irrelevant listings, and you have to read the listing thoroughly to be clear what you’re getting. You have to be comfortable with not actually knowing the history of the component, and therefore not being able to confidently assess the longevity or internal condition of the part. And you have to trust the seller somewhat.

But if you’re not deterred by any of that, then for sheer price-to-performance alone, used GPUs can help stretch your dollar a bit, for sure.

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