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Valve are still taking SteamOS beyond the Steam Deck, though dual booting is a ways off

Valve have made no secret of their plans to make SteamOS – the Linux-based operating system that powers the Steam Deck – available to other games-playing devices, including rival handhelds. After a recent beta update mentioned adding support for the Asus ROG Ally’s inputs, The Verge confirmed with Valve that SteamOS support for non-Steam Deck portables is still very much in the works. The Deck’s long-promised dual booting capability, on the other hand, sounds further down the to-do list.

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  • Valve are still taking SteamOS beyond the Steam Deck, though dual booting is a ways offJames Archer
    Valve have made no secret of their plans to make SteamOS – the Linux-based operating system that powers the Steam Deck – available to other games-playing devices, including rival handhelds. After a recent beta update mentioned adding support for the Asus ROG Ally’s inputs, The Verge confirmed with Valve that SteamOS support for non-Steam Deck portables is still very much in the works. The Deck’s long-promised dual booting capability, on the other hand, sounds further down the to-do list. Read
     

Valve are still taking SteamOS beyond the Steam Deck, though dual booting is a ways off

14. Srpen 2024 v 12:32

Valve have made no secret of their plans to make SteamOS – the Linux-based operating system that powers the Steam Deck – available to other games-playing devices, including rival handhelds. After a recent beta update mentioned adding support for the Asus ROG Ally’s inputs, The Verge confirmed with Valve that SteamOS support for non-Steam Deck portables is still very much in the works. The Deck’s long-promised dual booting capability, on the other hand, sounds further down the to-do list.

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  • Valve plánuje nabídnout podporu SteamOS pro ASUS ROG Ally a další handheldyAdam Jacik
    ASUS ROG Ally a další kapesní počítače budou konečně moci běžet na SteamOS, jak bylo odhaleno v nové aktualizaci operačního systému zveřejněné společností Valve. Je oficiální, že Valve nyní rozšiřuje svou podporu SteamOS na další kapesní zařízení kromě vlastních handheldů Steam Deck, zejména ASUS ROG Ally, který je v současnosti jedním z nejprodávanějších handheldů na trhu. Zpráva pochází z TheVerge a uvádí, že designér Valve, Lawrence Yang, potvrdil, že SteamOS bude brzy dostupný pro handheld R
     

Valve plánuje nabídnout podporu SteamOS pro ASUS ROG Ally a další handheldy

14. Srpen 2024 v 23:15

Valve SteamOS ASUS ROG Ally Handhelds

ASUS ROG Ally a další kapesní počítače budou konečně moci běžet na SteamOS, jak bylo odhaleno v nové aktualizaci operačního systému zveřejněné společností Valve.

Je oficiální, že Valve nyní rozšiřuje svou podporu SteamOS na další kapesní zařízení kromě vlastních handheldů Steam Deck, zejména ASUS ROG Ally, který je v současnosti jedním z nejprodávanějších handheldů na trhu. Zpráva pochází z TheVerge a uvádí, že designér Valve, Lawrence Yang, potvrdil, že SteamOS bude brzy dostupný pro handheld ROG Ally.

Podpora byla naznačena v poznámkách k vydání SteamOS 3.6.9 Bega: Megafixer , které uváděly: „Přidána podpora pro extra klíče ROG Ally“, což nebylo dříve známo. Na dotaz Valve odpověděl: „Poznámka o klíčích ROG Ally souvisí s podporou zařízení třetích stran pro SteamOS.

Zdá se však, že ROG Ally není jediným handheldem, který dostane SteamOS, protože Valve také výslovně uvedlo „další handheldy“. Protože však Valve stále probíhá, může chvíli trvat, než ostatní handheldy budou moci běžet na SteamOS. Zpráva také neuvádí, že ROG Ally bude standardně dodáván se SteamOS. Mezi další prominentní handheldy na trhu patří Legion Go od Lenova a Claw od MSI.

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Další velká aktualizace souvisí se závazkem společnosti Valve převést konzoli Steam Deck na kapesní počítač s Windows s dvojitým spouštěním, který uživatelům umožní přepínat operační systém podle jejich potřeb. Yang uvedl, že připravují zbývající ovladače Windows pro edici Steam Deck OLED, ale nyní není jasné, kdy bude operační systém Windows plně připraven ke spuštění na Steam Deck. Nicméně je to na jejich seznamu priorit a pracují na tom.

V současné době je ASUS ROG Ally jedním z nejuniverzálnějších herních handheldů díky operačnímu systému Windows, protože umožňuje výrobcům PC upgradovat jejich stroje, aniž by si museli dělat velké starosti s kompatibilitou. Vzhledem k tomu, že společnost Microsoft má pro tyto úkoly ověřovací týmy, usnadňuje ASUS bezproblémové vytváření kapesních počítačů. ROG Ally se dodává ve standardní i novější variantě X.

Steam Deck, i když je výkonově nižší než ROG, je Ally hráči milován, protože SteamOS založený na Linuxu je přímočarý a umožňuje vám dostat se do her, aniž byste museli řešit problémy související s Windows. Vybavení ASUS ROG Ally systémem SteamOS bude velkým krokem vpřed do ručního hraní, kde uživatelé mohou přepínat mezi dvěma různými OS a provádět různé úkoly podle libosti.

Článek Valve plánuje nabídnout podporu SteamOS pro ASUS ROG Ally a další handheldy se nejdříve objevil na GAME PRESS.

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  • Asus ROG Ally X review: the best Windows handheld, if you can afford itJames Archer
    "Again, but better" has become the maxim of post-Steam Deck portable PCs. Or, to be more specific, post-Steam Deck OLED ones. Now that Valve have shown it’s possible to quickly turn around an upgraded handheld without enraging owners of the original, Lenovo have hinted at a new Legion Go, MSI have revealed an improved Claw, and Asus have released this here ROG Ally X. A ROG Ally, again – but better? Yes, it is, in almost every way except the speed at which it’ll plunge you into financial desti
     

Asus ROG Ally X review: the best Windows handheld, if you can afford it

"Again, but better" has become the maxim of post-Steam Deck portable PCs. Or, to be more specific, post-Steam Deck OLED ones. Now that Valve have shown it’s possible to quickly turn around an upgraded handheld without enraging owners of the original, Lenovo have hinted at a new Legion Go, MSI have revealed an improved Claw, and Asus have released this here ROG Ally X. A ROG Ally, again – but better? Yes, it is, in almost every way except the speed at which it’ll plunge you into financial destitution.

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  • Asus ROG Ally X review: the best Windows handheld, if you can afford itJames Archer
    "Again, but better" has become the maxim of post-Steam Deck portable PCs. Or, to be more specific, post-Steam Deck OLED ones. Now that Valve have shown it’s possible to quickly turn around an upgraded handheld without enraging owners of the original, Lenovo have hinted at a new Legion Go, MSI have revealed an improved Claw, and Asus have released this here ROG Ally X. A ROG Ally, again – but better? Yes, it is, in almost every way except the speed at which it’ll plunge you into financial desti
     

Asus ROG Ally X review: the best Windows handheld, if you can afford it

2. Srpen 2024 v 17:47

"Again, but better" has become the maxim of post-Steam Deck portable PCs. Or, to be more specific, post-Steam Deck OLED ones. Now that Valve have shown it’s possible to quickly turn around an upgraded handheld without enraging owners of the original, Lenovo have hinted at a new Legion Go, MSI have revealed an improved Claw, and Asus have released this here ROG Ally X. A ROG Ally, again – but better? Yes, it is, in almost every way except the speed at which it’ll plunge you into financial destitution.

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It won’t fit the Asus ROG Ally X, but Dbrand’s Project Killswitch is a lovely upgrade for the original Ally

One of my absolute most favouritest Steam Deck cases, besides the one you get for free with the Steam Deck OLED, is the Dbrand Project Killswitch. It’s not so much a carrying vessel as a hardened second skin, providing protection without all the bag-hogging bulk of a traditional case – while throwing in handy bonuses like a clip-on kickstand and grippy thumbstick covers. For owners of the Asus ROG Ally, the recent launch of a Project Killswitch for their own handheld PC should therefore represent glad tidings with extra gladness, even if it won’t also fit the upcoming ROG Ally X.

Thank the new device’s bigger battery, wider SSD and reworked connection layout for that particular lack of forwards compatibility, as the ROG Ally X’s thicker dimensions will make it just slightly too beefy to slip into the Killswitch’s skintight silicone. A shame, but at least it makes a quality addition to the original Ally right this second. I’ve been manhandling one for a week now, and it’s just as practical and protective as the Steam Deck version.

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  • Looks like the Asus ROG Ally X will get a honking great battery upgradeJames Archer
    The Asus ROG Ally X, a sort of semi-sequel to last year’s ROG Ally handheld PC, has had its specs spilled over at Videocardz. I’m usually a lot more suspicious of hardware leaks, which are often just out-of-date or otherwise inaccurate info, but I’ve also sat through enough mic-muted prebriefings to know an official slideshow when I see one, and that appears to be exactly what Videocardz got its hands on. Besides, these specs include a gigantic 80Whr battery upgrade (doubling the ROG Ally’s 40W
     

Looks like the Asus ROG Ally X will get a honking great battery upgrade

The Asus ROG Ally X, a sort of semi-sequel to last year’s ROG Ally handheld PC, has had its specs spilled over at Videocardz. I’m usually a lot more suspicious of hardware leaks, which are often just out-of-date or otherwise inaccurate info, but I’ve also sat through enough mic-muted prebriefings to know an official slideshow when I see one, and that appears to be exactly what Videocardz got its hands on. Besides, these specs include a gigantic 80Whr battery upgrade (doubling the ROG Ally’s 40Whr capacity), so we can at least file this under "News James wants to be true."

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  • Best retro gaming handheldsRuben Circelli
    Portable gaming machines are more popular than ever, like with Valve's Steam Deck and all the best Steam Deck alternatives. Then, of course, you've got the best gaming laptops that are excellent portable gaming machines, while even the best cheap gaming laptops can handle more than a few games on the go. However, if you're looking for something that fits in your hands and excels at retro gaming, which machine is the best buy for your purposes?
     

Best retro gaming handhelds

19. Květen 2024 v 22:00

Portable gaming machines are more popular than ever, like with Valve's Steam Deck and all the best Steam Deck alternatives. Then, of course, you've got the best gaming laptops that are excellent portable gaming machines, while even the best cheap gaming laptops can handle more than a few games on the go. However, if you're looking for something that fits in your hands and excels at retro gaming, which machine is the best buy for your purposes?

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  • Steam Deck has quietly become a reasonably capable ray tracing handheldOliver Mackenzie
    Valve's Steam Deck is a highly capable piece of kit, often reaching parity with last-gen consoles at ~720p, while more demanding current-gen efforts can prove quite playable as well - even including some of the top-end Unreal Engine 5 titles. The RDNA2 graphics hardware inside the Deck is even capable of ray tracing, though this support has largely been dormant in SteamOS. That's started to change over the last year, with first Vulkan and then DXR-enabled titles running under Proton with RT ena
     

Steam Deck has quietly become a reasonably capable ray tracing handheld

1. Květen 2024 v 16:00

Valve's Steam Deck is a highly capable piece of kit, often reaching parity with last-gen consoles at ~720p, while more demanding current-gen efforts can prove quite playable as well - even including some of the top-end Unreal Engine 5 titles. The RDNA2 graphics hardware inside the Deck is even capable of ray tracing, though this support has largely been dormant in SteamOS. That's started to change over the last year, with first Vulkan and then DXR-enabled titles running under Proton with RT enabled - and RT performance has seen big boosts as well.

Today we're taking a look at the state of play when it comes to RT on Steam Deck, looking at some of the best-looking PC titles to see whether they can be playable with RT engaged. Can we get good frame-rates even with demanding ray tracing settings? And how does the Valve's handheld compare in performance terms against the more powerful ROG Ally?

The most obvious place to start is with the Steam Deck is some of the easier ray tracing workloads available - and I think Doom Eternal is a good first choice. The game runs well with minimal settings tweakery: 720p resolution, medium settings and RT toggled on. Relative to the non-RT version of the game, we get solid (if somewhat low-res and slightly ghostly) reflections on glossy surfaces, with very different material properties when RT is enabled. This makes for a transformative difference in scenes with glossy materials, though an aggressive roughness cutoff means that semi-gloss materials are largely bereft of RT treatment.

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  • Best chargers for Asus ROG Ally in 2024Joe Rice-Jones
    The Asus ROG Ally is a powerful portable gaming console running Windows 11. It's one of the best Steam Deck alternatives, and has flown off shelves since launch. With how much performance it boasts, you’ll want to play it constantly, but the battery life means you’ll be plugging it in constantly. To keep your console topped up, we’ve compiled a list of the best chargers for the ROG Ally. Some of these will be a backup to the charger it is bundled with, while others add additional por
     

Best chargers for Asus ROG Ally in 2024

22. Duben 2024 v 16:30

The Asus ROG Ally is a powerful portable gaming console running Windows 11. It's one of the best Steam Deck alternatives, and has flown off shelves since launch. With how much performance it boasts, you’ll want to play it constantly, but the battery life means you’ll be plugging it in constantly. To keep your console topped up, we’ve compiled a list of the best chargers for the ROG Ally. Some of these will be a backup to the charger it is bundled with, while others add additional ports or even an external GPU for more graphical power.

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  • ROG Ally vs. Steam Deck – Hardware ComparisonJordan
    ASUS announced a potent Steam Deck competitor May 11th and released the spec sheets for two models that vary in more ways than the different Steam Deck options from Valve. We’ll be looking at the official tech specs for each device and comparing them side by side. There’s some juicy differences ahead, so let’s get started! ROG Ally vs. Steam Deck: APU   First, we’ll be comparing the APU between each device, which is the combination processor (CPU) and graphics unit (GPU) that makes the funny m
     

ROG Ally vs. Steam Deck – Hardware Comparison

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19. Květen 2023 v 22:40


ASUS announced a potent Steam Deck competitor May 11th and released the spec sheets for two models that vary in more ways than the different Steam Deck options from Valve. We’ll be looking at the official tech specs for each device and comparing them side by side. There’s some juicy differences ahead, so let’s get started!


ROG Ally vs. Steam Deck: APU

 

First, we’ll be comparing the APU between each device, which is the combination processor (CPU) and graphics unit (GPU) that makes the funny man on the screen do the little dance. Higher-performance APUs can process more little dances per second. Together with RAM, they determine how pretty the funny man’s face and house look.

The Steam Deck features a relatively older Zen 2 APU from AMD, while the Ally has a newer Zen 4 APU. This allows for a denser layout of processing units in the Ally, increasing performance but also increasing the amount of power drawn. With the smaller architecture comes an increased core and thread count: the base Ally has 50% more cores and threads than the Steam Deck, while the extreme Ally has double the core and thread count.

Processing speeds are much faster on the Ally as well, right around 1.5GHz higher on both models compared to the Steam Deck. CPU-intensive games will almost certainly run better on the Ally compared to the Steam Deck, and the increased CPU performance will help push framerates closer to the 120fps maximum. Performance in this regard seems quite impressive!


ROG Ally vs. Steam Deck: RAM

 

Next we’ll be looking at RAM, which is where the data that’s necessary for active processes and open applications is temporarily stored for fast access. More RAM means more processes can be worked on at once, and faster RAM means more processes can be done in the same amount of time.

While the Steam Deck features quad-channel RAM (compared to the Ally’s dual-channel), there should be no appreciable difference in performance between the two in this regard. However, the 16% faster RAM speed may introduce a slight performance advantage to the Ally, as AMD APUs are notorious for loving high-speed RAM.

The overall capacity of each is the same across all models in this lineup, with each device featuring 16GB of RAM as the only option. Fortunately, that should be plenty for practically every modern game. The RAM speeds of both devices are quite fast, and will likely deliver the same performance in the majority of games. Not much of a difference in this aspect, so let’s move on!


ROG Ally vs. Steam Deck: Storage

 

Storage is straightforward—it’s the capacity for all software or data present on the device. Both handhelds feature Solid State Drives (SSD) across the entire lineup, with only the lowest-spec Steam Deck featuring a different type of SSD that may run a little slower than the others we’re looking at. But hey, that one’s only 64GB anyways, so it’s not like you’d be able to run any major brand-new AAA releases from it anyway!

Storage is the only major difference between the various versions of the Steam Deck, with the cheapest model having only 64GB of eMMC SSD storage. The two more expensive Steam Decks feature faster NVMe SSDs at either 256GB or 512GB. ASUS took the liberty of making the storage decision for you, with identical 512GB NVMe SSDs on the base and extreme models. The Ally features a generation 4 PCIe connection, which has double the transfer rate of the PCIe 3.0 in the 256 and 512GB Steam Decks and a little over triple the transfer rate of the PCIe 2.0 in the 64GB.

While this sounds like a crazy increase in speeds over the Steam Deck, no game should ever reach the maximum transfer speed of a PCIe 3.0 SSD, and a PCIe 2.0 SSD should only cause one or two frames lost per second at most. The only noticeable difference between them then, if any, would be slightly improved loading times on the faster drives. Since these storage options are so effectively similar, and since modern games are ballooning in size more and more every year, no matter which you choose… I see a MicroSD card purchase in your future! So, just keep that in mind.


ROG Ally vs. Steam Deck: Screen

 

Screens are incredibly important on handheld gaming devices, and the Ally does it’s best to one-up the Steam Deck’s screen in nearly every way—and if the tech specs are any indication, it succeeds. Important parts of a screen include the resolution (the number of pixels on the screen), the refresh rate (the number of images the screen can display per second), and the brightness (which is measured in nits).

Like the APUs, the screens are a major point of difference between the Steam Deck and the Ally, with each brand sporting the same screen across all of their respective models. Both the Deck and the Ally include an IPS LCD screen that is about the same physical size.

But the Ally has increased resolution (1080p compared to 800p), double the refresh rate, and 25% higher maximum brightness. These should all come together to produce a brighter, crisper, smoother image on the Ally—but at the certain cost of increased heat and reduced battery life, unless you dial back the performance. Playing games with low resource requirements on the Ally will benefit most from the 120hz refresh rate, creating the opportunity for highly and consistently smooth gameplay. The extra brightness won’t come in much use unless you frequently play somewhere without proper shade, like a nice beach or the heart of a dying star.


ROG Ally vs. Steam Deck: Connectivity

The ports between both devices are largely the same, with each featuring a 3.5mm headphone jack, a MicroSD card reader, and a USB-C port capable of high-speed video and audio streaming. The Ally also lists that the USB-C is a combination port with the “ROG XG Mobile Interface”, a type of external graphics card you can connect to increase the performance of the Ally; but then it isn’t so portable, is it?

As for wireless connectivity, both feature full Bluetooth compatibility to tether your favorite controllers and headphones.


ROG Ally vs. Steam Deck: Miscellaneous

Operating System

The Steam Deck uses the Arch-based SteamOS that was custom created for the device. It’s a fairly smooth UI with some decent settings options, but it lacks compatibility with third-party programs. Windows can be installed and dual-booted from, but the more limited specs of the Steam Deck will hold the performance back.

The Ally, conversely, will come loaded with Windows 11 from the start, allowing for a wider range of compatibility with many programs. For most people, Windows 11 isn’t that much of a deterrence, but to some people it’s a dealbreaker. It will probably bog down the performance a little since the operating system isn’t built specifically for gaming like SteamOS is on the Steam Deck, but Windows 11 opens the door to many applications beyond just playing games on Steam.

Battery

Both have the same battery capacity at 40KWh. Valve estimates that the Steam Deck’s battery powers 2-8 hours of gameplay, and its APU only draws half the power of the Ally at both minimum and maximum wattage. We can conservatively estimate the battery life range for the ROG Ally may be half of the Steam Deck: around 1-4 hours of gaming time, but of course this may vary when you factor in background processes like Window 11 and gaming software suites, as well as any optimizations ASUS implements.

Size and Weight

The Ally weighs about 9% less than the Steam Deck (608 grams and 669 grams, respectively), and has thinner, flatter grips that reduce the overall weight. It’s also a little narrower, reducing its footprint on desks and tables while maintaining the same screen size as the Steam Deck. Height remains almost the same, only 6mm shorter on the Ally, as both devices feature very little vertical bezel around the screen. Not bad! A little more compact while remaining big on features.

Touchpads and Grip Buttons

If you find yourself unsatisfied by the sixteen buttons on a standard controller layout, luckily both the Ally and the Steam Deck have additional input buttons on the back of the grips. While the Ally has two paddle-style buttons on the back, the Steam Deck features four larger buttons that are more flush with the curves of the grips. The Steam Deck additionally features twin touch pads on either side of the screen, something that the Ally lacks entirely, which can not only easily enable mouse control but also provide an extra set of inputs (an important feature in games like Arma or Squad).

 

Left, in green: Two buttons on the back of the Ally | Middle, in blue: Four buttons on the back of the Steam Deck | Right, in red: Two touch pads on the front of the Steam Deck


Price and a Verdict (Based on One Opinion (Mine))

 

Now onto an all-important aspect: pricing!

The weaker 256GB version of the Ally is $599 while the more powerful 512GB version is only $100 more at $699.

The Steam Deck is available in three prices: $399 for the 64GB, $529 for the 256GB and $649 for the 512GB.

The increasingly expensive Steam Deck models also include extras like carrying cases, Steam profile bundles, and more premium display glass. Notably, the Ally is the only device that actually has performance differences between the models, and the difference is absolutely massive, to the point where saving $100 isn’t really worth the loss in performance. You’re saving just 14% of the price to have your performance reduced by approximately 67%, based on the maximum number of teraflops per second. You’re also losing a lot of processing power by missing out on two cores and four threads, as well as a little bit of maximum clock speed.

Conversely, the Steam Deck delivers a consistent performance across the board starting at the base $399 version. This model’s price puts the Steam Deck at a very competitive place compared to the Ally, which starts at 50% more but offers a sizeable performance bump. The $529 and even $649 models only gain a faster and larger SSD—and let’s be real, regardless of model you’ll most likely end up with a massive-capacity MicroSD card jammed into the reader that will never leave until entropy destroys the universe.

If you’re looking to play a handful of games that aren’t too demanding, it seems like the $399 Steam Deck is your best bet. If graphic fidelity and keeping performance steady is more important, then it’s probably worth strongly considering the Ally, whether that’s the performance version or not.

Once the Ally is released and a mainstream Steam Deck competitor hits the shelves, it’s really going to beg the question of who the two more expensive Steam Deck models are marketed towards, as there will soon be a $600 alternative that’s significantly more powerful and provides just as much high-speed storage as even the $649 Steam Deck. So maybe a price cut will come to those higher-tier Deck variants? Only time will tell!


Conclusion

 

For now, this is only the announcement. As more testing is released and we get a better idea of the real performance of the Ally and not just what ASUS tells us, its place relative to the Steam Deck will get clearer. The biggest concerns come from battery life; these are some high specs for a handheld!

The screen is brighter, higher resolution, and with double the refresh rate; the APU pulls up to twice the wattage; and in the background you’ve got Windows 11 and whatever extra gaming suites you have running, too. This battery is going to be carrying the weight of the world on its back, forever doomed to a full recharge after just a few hours of gaming. To every lithium-ion battery conscripted by ASUS into another ROG Ally, I salute you.

What are your thoughts on the ASUS ROG Ally? Would you consider spending the extra money for the performance? Let us know what you think and, as always, thanks for reading!

The ROG Ally PC handheld is down to $599 in the US for the powerful Z1 Extreme 512GB model

It seems like just yesterday that we were reporting that the Asus ROG Ally had dropped to £539 in the UK, and now we have a similarly good deal for the US market: the same Z1 Extreme 512GB model for just $599 following a $100 discount at Best Buy.

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Grab the Asus ROG Ally w/ Z1 Extreme processor for just £539 after a 10% Very discount

The Asus ROG Ally has dropped in price in response to the release of the Steam Deck OLED, and now a 10% off code at Very makes this handheld gaming PC even better value. You can now get the top-spec ROG Ally with the Z1 Extreme chipset and 512GB of PCIe 4.0 storage for just £539 with code VTQ8C, a brilliant price that puts it in direct competition with the 512GB Steam Deck OLED.

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